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J. Antonio Juarez's avatar

I have to say (and as shocking as they may sound) I never got into the whole Avengers films- I got overwhelmed with them in the 00's. Although I was a fan of the X-Men and the Wolverine series which wrapped up with Logan in 2017. That was it, I never watched more after that. But then came Brie Larsen as Captain Marvel- which I never saw but heard enough about to know that it exemplified what had become of the Superhero genre.

As Jonathan Pageau over at The Symbolic World has spoken about, the problem with these movies is what is called "Parasitic Storytelling" whereby a "woke" virus enters into a pre-existing storyline and infects it. It doesn't destroy the story or the genre but transforms it into something that "looks like" a superhero movie but is in fact an infected host which carries and passes on "the message" (as the Critical Drinker would say) to every film like it.

That is what people are getting sick of- the plague of bad films where the storylines were all transformed from stories about heroism, courage, sacrifice and a willingness to better oneself and the world were pushed aside for stories filled with petulance, entitlement, self-indulgence and the need to blame one's or the world's problems on various abstract or ideological constructs through which the "woke" see the world. Yeah, enough of that for me.

Auguste Meyrat's avatar

Well done! I totally agree. It’s not the genre, but really what they’ve done with it. That said, I’m at a weird age where I’m not sure I’m allowed to keep up with Marvel movies. After Endgame, I kinda tuned out. Nothing looked good.

I think some downsizing and reconsideration of genre is definitely in order. I honestly don’t think it’d be hard to reboot Marvel franchises. We might just need to wait a few years first.

Gamma002's avatar

The problem is Hollywood's Woke religious capture. Superheroes are about INDIVIDUALS making a difference, but the Woke writers and directors in Hollywood are Marxist collectivists. For them, everything is about power, not goodness or heroism. The Woke can't even understand those concepts.